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    21 Apr '17 17:56
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    When people are trained to know the counterfeit from real money, they don't study the fake they only study the real.
    That doesn't make any sense. On levels!
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    21 Apr '17 18:06
    Originally posted by apathist
    That doesn't make any sense. On levels!
    Only by knowing the real thing can one spot the fake, you spend all of your time looking at fakes how would you know the real one among them?
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    21 Apr '17 18:23
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Only by knowing the real thing can one spot the fake, you spend all of your time looking at fakes how would you know the real one among them?
    You look for attributes. When you look for false government money, those attributes are preset. When we look for false gods, where do we find the definitions for the attributes we should look for? From christians! Or muslims! Or jews! Or hindus! Or buddhists! Or wiccans!

    Some part of "faith belief" escapes you, and you let yourself think all others not like you go to hell. Shame on you, buddy.
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    21 Apr '17 18:26
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I don't look for anything once I find it.
    So by finding a penny, and quitting, you deny yourself the possibility of finding a pound.
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    21 Apr '17 19:03
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    So by finding a penny, and quitting, you deny yourself the possibility of finding a pound.
    Look down to find a penny. Look up to find the sky. I don't know why I said that.
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    21 Apr '17 19:08
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    So by finding a penny, and quitting, you deny yourself the possibility of finding a pound.
    When you encounter God why look for gods?
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    21 Apr '17 19:10
    Originally posted by apathist
    You look for attributes. When you look for false government money, those attributes are preset. When we look for false gods, where do we find the definitions for the attributes we should look for? From christians! Or muslims! Or jews! Or hindus! Or buddhists! Or wiccans!

    Some part of "faith belief" escapes you, and you let yourself think all others not like you go to hell. Shame on you, buddy.
    To recognize the bad you must know what good is.
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    21 Apr '17 19:33
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    When you encounter God why look for gods?
    Basically Kelly you are someone who declares vanilla to be the only icecream worth eating, while being oblivious to all the other flavours on offer. What if the true flavour is chocolate. How will you ever know?

    (The question is of course rhetorical. Everyone knows the best flavour of icecream is mint choc chip).
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    21 Apr '17 19:34
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    In another thread Josephw [son-in-law of the JW Roigam 😀], stated that what people need is a relationship with Jesus Christ. I have heard this before from several other Christians like KellyJ and when I asked what is a relationship with Christ, he was at first shocked that I, a professed Christian did not know what that was. When I tell Christians th ...[text shortened]... really want others to know about their doctrine ?

    What exactly is a relationship with Christ?
    /facepalm
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    21 Apr '17 19:35
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    /facepalm
    /moon walk
  11. Standard memberKellyJay
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    21 Apr '17 21:26
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Basically Kelly you are someone who declares vanilla to be the only icecream worth eating, while being oblivious to all the other flavours on offer. What if the true flavour is chocolate. How will you ever know?

    (The question is of course rhetorical. Everyone knows the best flavour of icecream is mint choc chip).
    Do you struggle with math problems when you have the answer?
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    21 Apr '17 21:28
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Basically Kelly you are someone who declares vanilla to be the only icecream worth eating, while being oblivious to all the other flavours on offer. What if the true flavour is chocolate. How will you ever know?

    (The question is of course rhetorical. Everyone knows the best flavour of icecream is mint choc chip).
    We are not talking about what my favorite religion is, this isn't a what is my favorite food in the buffet type of question!
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    21 Apr '17 21:55
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    To recognize the bad you must know what good is.
    What is good, Kelly? How do you recognize it?
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    21 Apr '17 21:56
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Do you struggle with math problems when you have the answer?
    Yes. Here to there is an issue.
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    21 Apr '17 22:291 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    Muslims "talk directly with God" when they pray and do not attempt to do say via their prophets like Jesus and Muhammad. If Muslims "talk directly with God" when they pray, is that a "relationship"?
    Ask a Muslim If allah loves them.

    Not all relationships are loving.

    The god of Islam does not love everyone, if anyone at all.

    In that respect, the god of Islam is a distant and cold god.
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