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  1. 18 Jan '17 17:02 / 1 edit
    Note to general community but specifically to Russ.

    The information provided on this thread is in Russ' hands.
    We will need to give him time for analysis and a response to the community.

    That being said, there is a separate issue at hand that needs to be addressed.
    And soon !!

    This is the fiasco of collusion from 2016.
    This will fester and it will not go away.
    And there will be a negative impact to the site !!

    And this will become a larger issue as time goes on.
    I say this because it appears that the 4 clans involved last year appear to be at it again !!

    Even if the new challenges between Easy Riders and their cohorts - Anti-Metallica, Breaking Bad and Arrow clans - appear to be above board, the optics for this site will not be good !!

    This will only hurt the site !!
    And inaction by site administration will only make things worse !!

    I previously, in this thread, requested that site administration conduct an analysis of the 2016 clan results.

    And render a decision to the clan community in a reasonably timely manner.
    I even stated that a decision one way or the other would be acceptable to me.
    What I am looking for is something. Anything !!

    Silence on this issue is the worst possible course of action !!

    What I think would be an acceptable outcome would be a penalty issued to the participants in the collusion.
    Particularly to the clans whose only reason for existence is to throw points at certain clans in order to skew the outcome of a competition, as informal as that competition may be.

    Also, a data correction in the form of a points rollback would be appropriate.
    If that is not an option, I personally would settle for a flag, say an asterisk, next to the clan(s) involved along with a footnote citing a dubious result.
    Others will not agree with me on this.
    This may require less effort than a data hammer and achieve the same effect.

    Clans that come to mind for this action are Easy Riders in 2016 and Strategic Ultimatum in 2015.
    The latter have already been punished for their actions, yet they show as a 2nd place clan in the 2015 standings.
    That is an INSULT to every clan that competed hard yet finished behind them in the standings !!

    You keep this data for at least 10 years.
    I would think that someone viewing this data in 2025 would like to have a clear sense of the competition of the 2015 & 2016 clan campaigns when they view the results.

    Once again, I respectfully request a response on this matter soon.
    I fully understand stand you have a lot on your plate.
    This request is not an IT development proposal , but a referee decision.
    And it can be progressed separately from the clan system improvement initiative.

    Thanks, Mike (renewed for 2017 )
  2. Subscriber Steve45
    Garry Kasparov
    14 Jan '17 15:39
    When does the talking stop, and the changes start to happen. I think everything that can be said, has been said now. Time for action.
  3. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Righteous Atheist
    17 Jan '17 18:40
    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    I suspect that happened in a dream sir, which begs the question, why are you dreaming about Van der Velde? (I'm hoping it's the pancakes, not the bum).
  4. Subscriber vandervelde
    medieval punk rocker
    19 Jan '17 08:39
    Which poop does Hand of Hecate remind you on?
    Thumb up - for raccoon poop
    Thumb down - for dog poop.
    Thanks.
  5. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    19 Jan '17 10:59 / 1 edit
    My vote goes to Robbie Carrobie!!






















    Oh, wait.... I thought this thread title was "Easy Riders Clown"...
  6. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    20 Jan '17 12:39
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Asking for basic human decency and civility is 'forcing their ideals on you'?

    No suzi, that is not what I said.

    Forcing their ideals and taking more than half of a mans working life, then asking for human decency and civility.

    I didn't say they were one and the same thing, I said that those who advocate force and threats of force against their fellow citizens are not due decency or civility.

    You see there's not so much to get confused about there
  7. Subscriber roma45
    st johnstone
    14 Jan '17 10:29
    congratulation again to metallica, the real 2016 champions, did it without any collusion and a flying start to this years championship.

    the party will start when collusion points are removed and clans suspended and cheats booted forever
  8. 14 Jan '17 18:31
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Do you want another whuppin? any more sass and you are entering a world of pain!
    Yup !! Get McTayto and Vespin on high level of readiness !!
    Message to the troops.

    Ready , Set , Resign !!
  9. 14 Jan '17 19:43
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Do you want another whuppin? any more sass and you are entering a world of pain!
    Why do you make that veiled threat ?
    Is it the 76 points in progress with your 3 sister clans ?

    They are there for all to see.
  10. Subscriber shortcircuit
    The Energizer
    14 Jan '17 21:10
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    ~Not a single piece of evidence , no not even a single game could you or your lying cohorts produce. You keep repeating the same slander again and again as if by doing so you hope to make it real. Let reality sink in Santa we are worthy champions!

    The only people that are gutless are those like you that could not take getting whupped and continu ...[text shortened]... ce the system changes it over for you Wendys and you will be forced to play chess! Yes indeedee!
    Since when did you EVER have ANY evidence when you made all of your erroneous comments?

    My comments are stone cold factual and we are going to squeeze you until you burst like the pimple you are!!
  11. 14 Jan '17 22:27
    I lost 33kg in an hour when I chopped both my legs off.
    Unfortunately I am still too heavy for my height which is now 3ft 2ins.
  12. 15 Jan '17 03:12
    Originally posted by Steve45
    When does the talking stop, and the changes start to happen. I think everything that can be said, has been said now. Time for action.
    Russ needs to act on this quickly as Robbie of Easy Riders recently stated in the clan forum he is now employing the same tactics he used in 2016. That is, arranging frequent mega challenges with his 3 patsy clans, Breaking Bad, Arrow and the Anti Metallica clans. This will generate hundreds of points if nothing is done to stop this collusion. Russ, please put a cap on how may times clans can challenge each other, say once every 3 months would be ideal.
  13. Subscriber radioactive69
    Fun, fun fun!!
    15 Jan '17 04:30
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    2016 undisputed chess champions of the internet, da Easy Riders

    sorry who are you again? what's your clans name?
    Any clan can cheat and win the clan championship. Your clan was proof of that. The real test of a clans worth is winning the championship playing with integrity and sportsmanship. Metallica have proved it can be done as has Wycombe.

    Your clan is the clan that has disgraced the word of sportsmanship and every member in your clan has been noted and put on the disgraceful cheat board next to you, McGayo, VESPIN and Lemondrop.

    Forever to be known as cheats with absolutely no integrity. Your clan are to chess what the US Postal Service were to cycling. Cheats through and through.
  14. Subscriber radioactive69
    Fun, fun fun!!
    15 Jan '17 05:31
    Originally posted by my2sons
    Russ needs to act on this quickly as Robbie of Easy Riders recently stated in the clan forum he is now employing the same tactics he used in 2016. That is, arranging frequent mega challenges with his 3 patsy clans, Breaking Bad, Arrow and the Anti Metallica clans. This will generate hundreds of points if nothing is done to stop this collusion. Russ, pleas ...[text shortened]... t a cap on how may times clans can challenge each other, say once every 3 months would be ideal.
    Yeah.....do something other than sitting on your hands as you've done the past 12 months. Enough is enough !!!!
  15. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Implicit a-atheist
    15 Jan '17 10:06
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    The overrated American democracy is a complete disaster and failing. American people did nothing to stop people like Trump. Sad!
    The founders didn't create a demcracy; they created a republic.