JW's drop attempts to block sex abuse inquiry

Originally posted by divegeester
And what about this unanswered question:

If the Watchtower leadership have nothing to hide, then why did they try for two years to legally block an investigation into the their reporting of allegations of child sex abuse from within the church?

We do things right to the best of our ability.
That would include making sure we are not liable for any false accusations.
If the abuse is true, let the victim or parents report it.
It's their responsibility.

Originally posted by roigam
We do things right to the best of our ability.
That would include making sure we are not liable for any false accusations.
If the abuse is true, let the victim or parents report it.
It's their responsibility.

If the Watchtower leadership have nothing to hide, then why did they try for two years to legally block an investigation into the their reporting of allegations of child sex abuse from within the church?

Originally posted by roigam
We do things right to the best of our ability.

So do satanists.

Originally posted by roigam
We do things right to the best of our ability.
That would include making sure we are not liable for any false accusations.
If the abuse is true, let the victim or parents report it.
It's their responsibility.

They are not interested in the subject of child abuse and how it may be tackled, for them its simply a vehicle to troll a forum. They feign interest in the subject but in reality they are not interested in how it affects minors, or parents, or ministers of religion who hear confessions or the law as it stands or anything other than a cheap attempt to troll an internet forum. They have done zero research into the subject and remain absolutely bereft.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
They are not interested in the subject of child abuse and how it may be tackled, for them its simply a vehicle to troll a forum. They feign interest in the subject but in reality they are not interested in how it affects minors, or parents, or ministers of religion who hear confessions or the law as it stands or anything other than a cheap attempt t ...[text shortened]... an internet forum. They have done zero research into the subject and remain absolutely bereft.

Well I do admit that as well as how the child sexual abuse carried out by the Jehovah Witnesses affects the victims I am also interested in how the scandal rests poorly on your religious cult and how you deal with it here in this forum. And I have to say that in the latter point, you in particular, really don't present yourself in a good light.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
They are not interested in the subject of child abuse and how it may be tackled....

On the basis of what he has written on this thread, would you say that roigam is interested in the subject of child abuse and how it may be tackled?

Origins lly posted by FMF
On the basis of what he has written on this thread, would you say that roigam is interested in the subject of child abuse and how it may be tackled?

Nope. I have no interest in any problems at all.
I would love to see all problems solved but I am not the one to do it.
Our Heavenly Father Jehovah is going to do that.
(Revelation 21:3, 4) With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” (Revelation 21:5) And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful and true.”

He stopped the immorality and violence in Noah's day and He will stop it for good in our day. Harmful acts of any kind will not be permitted!

FMF: On the basis of what he has written on this thread, would you say that roigam is interested in the subject of child abuse and how it may be tackled?

Originally posted by roigam
Nope. I have no interest in any problems at all.
I would love to see all problems solved but I am not the one to do it.

Is there nothing that rank and file members [the interested ones, anyway] can do to put pressure on your organization to not to do things like use legal moves to try to block an investigation into how it handled allegations of sexual abuse of children in the past?

Originally posted by roigam
[God] stopped the immorality and violence in Noah's day and He will stop it for good in our day. Harmful acts of any kind will not be permitted!

If "harmful acts of any kind" [in this case sexual abuse] are or "will not be permitted" in your organization, why withhold information relevant to an ongoing investigation?

Originally posted by FMF
Is there nothing that rank and file members [the interested ones, anyway] can do to put pressure on your organization to not to do things like use legal moves to try to block an investigation into how it handled allegations of sexual abuse of children in the past?

Out of interest, do you believe no individual has the right to legally block an investigation if such a blockage is permitted by the laws of their country?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Out of interest, do you believe no individual has the right to legally block an investigation if such a blockage is permitted by the laws of their country?

Give me a scenario.

Originally posted by FMF
Give me a scenario.

Use the example given in this thread.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Use the example given in this thread.

No. You asked me a badly worded/half-baked question. Give me a scenario. Spell one out. And I will then attempt to answer your question.

Originally posted by FMF
No. You asked me a badly worded/half-baked question. Give me a scenario. Spell one out. And I will then attempt to answer your question.

The use of legal moves by an organization to try to block an investigation into how it handled allegations of sexual abuse of children in the past.

I'm interested in why you think that something which is legal is wrong?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
The use of [b]legal moves by an organization to try to block an investigation into how it handled allegations of sexual abuse of children in the past.[/b]

So your question was basically 'Is someone legally permitted to do what they are legally permitted to do?' What is the purpose of asking such a daft question?

The issue here is why was the organization trying to block an investigation into how it handled allegations of sexual abuse of children in the past ~ and my sentiment is 'thank goodness the investigation can now go ahead'.

I welcome such abuse being exposed, along with the mechanisms that prevented it from being exposed being questioned and dismantled, in whatever context or organization it happens in.

I haven't suggested that the organization's legal maneuvers were "illegal". If anyone has, you should take it up with them.