Originally posted by roigam As I said erlier, we are not policemen and we are not required by law to report abuse. If anyone wants to report abuse to the authorities they are free to do so.
If they do not want to report it, it is not our concern
What other very serious crimes committed by your members do you feel no obligation to report?
Originally posted by roigam An accusation is a charge of wrongdoing. There is proof
An allegation is an unproven assertion.
Newspapers are very careful to use "alleged" not accused or they could be sued.
I read the one you first posted. I assume it was rendered accurately.
Why are you not interested in reporting allegations of sex abuse to the police, are you instructed not to submit to their authority?
I have no idea what the details of that investigation are.
I know it is dangerous legally to make false accusations.
If we reported something that turned out to be not true, we could get sued.
I can't say that is the case, but, it is a possibility.
Do you think?
I also think there would be resistance in any religion to investigation into what is obviously client clergy privilege.
We have seen that in other religions, haven't we?
Originally posted by FMF Are you not permitted to read this thread's OP? Is that why you have "no idea" what this is about?
I read it and I think many details are missing.
Do you think newspapers always give 100% of a story?
They may not know the details either depending on the reporter.
Also, the amount of space available in the paper may encourage shortening a story,
don't you think?
Originally posted by roigam I read it and I think many details are missing.
Do you think newspapers always give 100% of a story?
They may not know the details either depending on the reporter.
Also, the amount of space available in the paper may encourage shortening a story,
don't you think?
If it leads to [1] justice for victims, [2] perpetrators being held to account for their actions, and [3] a change in the corporate mindset regarding how allegations of sexual abuse are handled ~ assuming those three things, for the sake of argument ~ do you welcome the fact that the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization has dropped its efforts to block a full investigation after its legal fight which has lasted for more than two years?
Originally posted by roigam I also think there would be resistance in any religion to investigation into what is obviously client clergy privilege.
We have seen that in other religions, haven't we?
Do you support any efforts there may have been in the Catholic Church to protect or cover up child sex abusers in its ranks by them citing "client clergy privilege"?
Or if that question sounds too loaded, tackle the same issue by way of this question:
Do you support any citing of "client clergy privilege" there may have been in the Catholic Church even if it resulted in the protecting or covering up of child sex abusers in its ranks?
Originally posted by roigam I have no idea what the details of that investigation are.
Your ambivalence in this matter is quite revolting but unsurprising. Galveston75 and Robbie Carrobie are not interested either. It's as though you SO want it all to not be true that you refuse to look at the facts. For example did you follow the link in this post from page two? Did you read up on the Royal Australian Commission's findings and the devastating criticism laid at the leadership of your church? Have you taken any responsibility whatsoever to inform yourself of the facts?
Here is my post from page 2 with the link to the original thread:
Originally posted by divegeester I think you should read up on your religious organisation, it is internationally notorious for covering up and failing to report allegations of child sexual abuse.
You could start here if you like:Thread 166741, where you find masses of information in the opening post link to the Royal Australian Commission's report into 1000s of cases of child sex abuse; also how your collegue Robbie Carrobie responds in the thread may be of interest to you.
Of course Carrobie will say it's all down to hate and JW persecution, because god's people are persecuted, and because your persecuted you therefore must be god's people blah blah. However if you do become genuinely interested, a google search will lead you to plenty more bonafide reports, articles and investigations.
If the Watchtower leadership have nothing to hide, then why did they try for two years to legally block an investigation into the their reporting of allegations of child sex abuse from within the church?
Originally posted by FMF If it leads to [1] justice for victims, [2] perpetrators being held to account for their actions, and [3] a change in the corporate mindset regarding how allegations of sexual abuse are handled ~ assuming those three things, for the sake of argument ~ do you welcome the fact that the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization has dropped its efforts to block a full investigation after its legal fight which has lasted for more than two years?
I don't know the details.
It's up to the victims or parents to report any abuse.
I also don't know anything about corporations.
JW s are an established religion worldwide.
Originally posted by FMF Do you support any efforts there may have been in the Catholic Church to protect or cover up child sex abusers in its ranks by them citing "client clergy privilege"?
Or if that question sounds too loaded, tackle the same issue by way of this question:
Do you support any citing of "client clergy privilege" there may have been in the Catholic Church [b]even if it resulted in the protecting or covering up of child sex abusers in its ranks?[/b]
JW s don't support any cover ups by anyone.
We don't cover up any abuse or abusers.
I don't have knowledge of any instances, but if it were to be someone in a position of responsibility in the organization, they would be removed from that position.
If they change Congregations, a letter goes along with them so they cannot be in a position of authority over members or their children.
Also, they need to repent or they will not remain in the organization, as you know.
27 Feb '17 05:35
JW's drop attempts to block sex abuse inquiry
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