04 Mar '17 02:13>
Originally posted by chaney3And once and for all, WHOM do you serve?
It is time for truth.
Nobody knows God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit in the ways they claim.
They are ALL guessing.
Originally posted by divegeesterSo when you say your erroneous doctrine is "taught" in the bible but is actually still a mystery, what you are implying is that it's not taught very well.
"And confessedly, great is the mystery of godliness:
He who was manifested in the flesh, ... etc. etc. " (1 Timothy 3:16a)
Originally posted by sonshipIt's not about being clever.
But you're not as clever as you think you are.
Originally posted by divegeesterOkay, a trinity of 'offices', not 'persons'.
It's not about being clever.
No, you are claiming that a doctrine, which I contend is false, is "taught" in the bible. Then you are claiming it is a "mystery".
If it is "taught" in the bible then it would not be a mystery. If it was hidden, it would be. It is not in the bible sonship. The trinity concept is a man made erroneous doctrine. god is one ...[text shortened]... ices, not three persons, peoples or beings. Try to look at it differently for once in your life.
Originally posted by SuzianneThat's right, offices not persons.
Okay, a trinity of 'offices', not 'persons'.
Sounds like you're disagreeing solely to disagree.
He said some other stuff that got you riled up and so now you refuse to agree with him on ANYthing, only for the principle of it, which seems ridiculous. Like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Originally posted by divegeester
No, you are claiming that a doctrine, which I contend is false, is "taught" in the bible. Then you are claiming it is a "mystery".
"Now to HIm who is able to establish you according to my gospel, that is, the proclamation of Jesus Christ, accoding to the revelation of the MYSTERY, which has been kept in silence in the times of the ages.
But has now been manifested, and through the prophetic writings, according to the command of the eternal God, has been made known to all the Gentiles for the obedience of faith." (Rom. 16:25,26)
Originally posted by sonship'We are not amused.' Queen Victoria.No, you are claiming that a doctrine, which I contend is false, is "taught" in the bible. Then you are claiming it is a "mystery".
I claim the mystery of God, Christ? Or the Bible claims [b]"the mystery of God, Christ"?
The New Testament claims and I agree. I just say "Amen" to Colossians 1:26.
And when I do, you accuse ...[text shortened]... d an "office" as a husband. You don't tell your family "Who will cut the grass for Us? "[/b]
Originally posted by divegeesterMy point is that is the "trinity" concept in a nutshell.
Wel my point is and has always been, that three offices it not the same as three distinct people. The one God reveals his one entity in three offices.
What's your point? If you have one.
Originally posted by SuzianneI honestly have no idea where you are going with this. You say your point is "the trinity concept in a nutshell". This is not a point, is a collection 6 words which mean absolutely nothing at all.
My point is that is the "trinity" concept in a nutshell.
You knew this was my point. Why the head in the sand in order to suggest that I don't have a point? Since when is all conversation with you just "forum combat"?
It seems straight from the 'Gospel of FMF', in the "how to deal with people who disagree with you" chapter.
Except I don't fully ' ...[text shortened]... ou do, too. Not because you actually do, but as a measure to 'save face'. An old forum tactic.
uorweOriginally posted by divegeester
More blather.
You claim that the trinity doctrine is [b]"taught" in the Bible, it isn't. "Trinity" "triune" "3 people in one God" are words and phrases that are not even mentioned in the BIble, let alone "taught".
You made that statement up sonship.[/b]
You claim that the trinity doctrine is "taught" in the Bible, it isn't. "Trinity" "triune" "3 people in one God" are words and phrases that are not even mentioned in the BIble, let alone "taught".
"But there are distinctions of gifts, but the same Spirit;
And there are distinctions of ministries, yet the same Lord;
And there are distinctions of operations, but the same God, who operates all things in all." (1 Cor. 12:4-6)
" ... but the same God, who operates all things in all" (v.6)
"But the one and the same Spirit operates all these things, distributing to each respectively even as He purposes." (v.11)
" ... and the same Spirit ....distributing ... even as He purposes." (v.11)
"But He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is. because He [Holy Spirit] intercedes for the saints according to God." (Rom. 8:27)
" And the Lord is the Spirit ..." (2 Cor. 3:17a)
"For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord ..." (2 Cor. 4:3a)