science & weather

Can the US military now control the weather/ I've heard that scientists can cause a Hurricane. That happened right after Desantis sent the bus loads to Martha's Vineyard !!

@ogb said
Can the US military now control the weather/ I've heard that scientists can cause a Hurricane. That happened right after Desantis sent the bus loads to Martha's Vineyard !!

Please move this to "Debates".

@ponderable said
Please move this to "Debates".

please butt out ..this is science I'm talking about...

@ogb said
please butt out ..this is science I'm talking about...

So please put forward more of the "science" stuff:

Any source on creation of Hurricans by humans? (preferably scientific ones)

You do realize, that if you propose a wild theory with marked emphasize on political revenge, and give not a clue where your wild theory is spported by actual science you sound like a political hack?

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/attacks-on-science/hurricane-science-becomes-matter-policy

@ogb said
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/attacks-on-science/hurricane-science-becomes-matter-policy

That is hardly a scientific paper on how to create a hurrican at a given position with a trjectory...

That the climate change is creating hurricanes is nothing that needs debate (I hope).

So have you a paper citing the specifics of creating a targeting hurricane.

@ponderable said
Please move this to "Debates".

Please move it to "conspiracy fairy-tales and qanon self-incrimination"!

@ponderable said
That is hardly a scientific paper on how to create a hurrican at a given position with a trjectory...

That the climate change is creating hurricanes is nothing that needs debate (I hope).

So have you a paper citing the specifics of creating a targeting hurricane.

A warmer climate results in less hurricanes, not more. A cold upper atmosphere is required for a hurricane to form in addition to a warm ocean. That is why dry ice is used. In the summer the ocean in the northern Atlantic is always warm. If that was enough hurricanes would never stop in summer. The Caribbean would be uninhabitable and nobody could sail over the Atlantic to America.

Global warming alarmists need to learn about condensation and how it is needed for hurricanes to form. You cannot get a cycle of evaporation and condensation without a colder upper atmosphere. Evaporation alone is not enough. That means one dose of dry ice is not enough either. Repeat doses would be needed.

@shallow-blue said
Please move it to "conspiracy fairy-tales and qanon self-incrimination"!

Stop your incessant trolling. Modifying the weather is all about science. Look up project Popeye. Learn before you troll stupidity.

@ogb
Pretty paranoid BS. If we could control weather why would we let half the US fry in super heat and hundreds of forest fires? Your implications are beyond nuts.

@sonhouse said
@ogb
Pretty paranoid BS. If we could control weather why would we let half the US fry in super heat and hundreds of forest fires? Your implications are beyond nuts.

You are wrong. Look up project Popeye.

There is even an international treaty for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention

@metal-brain said
A warmer climate results in less hurricanes, not more. A cold upper atmosphere is required for a hurricane to form in addition to a warm ocean. That is why dry ice is used. In the summer the ocean in the northern Atlantic is always warm. If that was enough hurricanes would never stop in summer. The Caribbean would be uninhabitable and nobody could sail over the Atlantic t ...[text shortened]... ne is not enough. That means one dose of dry ice is not enough either. Repeat doses would be needed.

You need to google the word ‘relative’ all condensation requires is for the upper atmosphere temperature to be low relative to the cloud formation level atmosphere.
Obviously if the temperature of the ocean is really warm it would only require the upper atmosphere to be not so warm rather than particularly cold.

@metal-brain said
Modifying the weather is all about science. Look up project Popeye.

You do realise that Operation (not project) Popeye failed, don't you?

You might as well reference Project Stormfury. Grandiose name, grand failure.

The only people who still believe in such things are
a. paranoid, dope-addled hippies who still believe in chemtrails, and
b. Mid-West American wannabe-cricket teams who try to get their diamonds dry before the match.

@shallow-blue said
You do realise that Operation (not project) Popeye failed, don't you?

You might as well reference Project Stormfury. Grandiose name, grand failure.

The only people who still believe in such things are
a. paranoid, dope-addled hippies who still believe in chemtrails, and
b. Mid-West American wannabe-cricket teams who try to get their diamonds dry before the match.

No, it was considered a success.
Lie much?

@Metal-Brain
Tell that to the victims of Ian. Warmer water = adds wind speed to hurricanes.