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    This first thread I made was about Miss Park detailing her escape from N. Korea. This time, Yeonmi goes into detail about what her life was like growing up under that dictatorship, and the mindset they are forced to adopt.

    YouTube : Yeonmi Park Interview

    http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2015/04/23/kim-jong-un-doesnt-like-me-at-all-says-21-year-old-defector-from-north-korea/

    Park grew up in the brutal and repressive North Korea as a child of privilege until her father was arrested for sending metals to China. He was sent to a labor camp — and Park and her mother set off on a long journey to freedom away from the oppressive regime. Park painted a grim portrait of life as a child in North Korea. “One of my earlier memories was my mom telling me not to even whisper, because the birds and mice can hear my whisper,” she said. “I was so surprised in the West to see parents encourage their children to express their feelings. I had to learn at that young of an age not to.”

    There are few countries as secretive and mysterious as North Korea, but what is known about the hermit kingdom is disturbing: 24 million people live in enforced poverty under an Orwellian strategy overseen by 32-year-old dictator Kim Jong Un.

    The dictatorship extends to every facet of their lives. During her lessons in school, Park learned math problems like, “There are 10 Americans, and if you kill five of them, how many are left?” she recalled. “They told us that the rest of the world are impure and disgusting and it’s a dangerous place, and we have nothing to envy outside of the world, that our country was the best.”

    As Park remembers, “In North Korea, everything is not free. Guards are telling us what to do and what to watch. We cannot think for ourselves and we are put into strict classes. My father became a prisoner, and I was a prisoner’s daughter and therefore didn’t have a future.”

    In 2007, at age 13, Park fled from the isolated nation. There are guards positioned on the borders of China ordered to shoot anyone seen fleeing on sight, and Park and her mother knew someone who helped them across the river. But that was only the beginning.

    While in China, when a man threatened to rape Yeonmi, her mother refused to allow it, and she was raped instead to protect her daughter. They were both sold into human trafficking. “I never knew what human trafficking was, and I couldn’t imagine how people could sell other people. I couldn’t not believe they were negotiating price before my eyes,” said Park. “The man who bought me said if I became his mistress, he would buy my mother and my father. And so I became his mistress to see my mother and father again.” Once her father arrived in China, he was diagnosed and died from colon cancer. “I had to bury his ashes at 3 a.m. in the middle of the night,” she recalled. “There was nobody I could call and say my father had died. I still remember that cold night, sitting next to him.”

    Park and her mother understood they needed to get out of China: “We wanted to live like human beings with dignity.” They crossed the Gobi Desert with five people on a cold night — “it was minus-40 degrees, she said, so no one would think that someone would cross the desert.” Park was then only 15 years old. “We followed a compass at first, and then we followed the stars to north and to freedom.”
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    Yeonmi's original account of her escape:

    YouTube : Yeonmi Park

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-story-of-a-north-korean-defector-yeonmi-park-to_us_58c4c742e4b070e55af9f00c

    “To you, he was a joke. To me, he [Kim Jong Un] was a God,” said Yeonmi Park today when she presented to the 2017 Global Teen Leaders at the Just Peace Summit.

    Tentatively, she introduced herself as a North Korean defector. Eyes dry, she slowly began to deliver the story of her life.

    To her, Kim Jong Un was a literal god. He was “Our Dearest Leader.”

    Yeonmi’s world was a terrible reality. It featured a society which she referred to as “brainwashed.” During Yeonmi’s time in North Korea, she recalled a society where public executions were performed arbitrarily. When one person was arrested, their entire family was at risk of being sent to a Korean work camp. “You can be killed for watching a [foreign] movie,” said Yeonmi.
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    30 Mar '17 13:26
    The problem of North Korea is an interesting one as it brings up a lot of questions with regards to morality and politics. But they are difficult questions with no easy answers.
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    30 Mar '17 18:21
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    The problem of North Korea is an interesting one as it brings up a lot of questions with regards to morality and politics. But they are difficult questions with no easy answers.
    This young lady also puts a face on the the term "refugee". That term has (inadvertently) depersonalized people classified as such. It makes people think of statistics, politics, government, etc...but not of people. For a brief time, critics paused their disdain for Syrian refugees when the body of a two-year-old toddler, Alan Kurdi, was found alone on a beach. That little boy, too young to understand the situation he was in, drowned, senselessly; senseless because their bid to move to Canada was rejected by the Canadian government. This boy could, and should, still be alive.

    If more defectors escape N. Korea, I hope that they will not be treated with the same disdain that the Syrians received. There are many Yeonmi Parks, sadly. Not just in N. Korea, but among refugees (and those unable to escape) all over the world. The worst thing we can do is forget this, and get lost in useless quarrels over political ideology.
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    YouTube

    This video briefly features Miss Park, but focuses more on the brainwashing that N. Korean citizens go through from the time they're small children. Not only were they raised to believe Kim Jong Ill (Un's dad) was a god, but also that he could read your thoughts. Miss Park, as a result, wouldn't allow herself to think one negative thing about Kim Jong's regime, and had to undergo three years of counseling before she could understand everything she'd been taught was a lie.
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    30 Mar '17 19:20
    Originally posted by vivify
    This young lady also puts a face on the the term "refugee".
    And that too raises an ethical question. Why do we only attribute 'innocence' to young girls and toddlers?
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    Originally posted by vivify
    If more defectors escape N. Korea, I hope that they will not be treated with the same disdain that the Syrians received. There are many Yeonmi Parks, sadly. Not just in N. Korea, but among refugees (and those unable to escape) all over the world. The worst thing we can do is forget this, and get lost in useless quarrels over political ideology.
    So do you support the free movement of people, or only tightly restricted refugee programs?
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    30 Mar '17 19:541 edit
    The name is probably Yeon Mi

    Koreans always have two parts to their name, then the last name.

    I guess in Korea they would go with family name first.
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    30 Mar '17 20:46
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    So do you support the free movement of people, or only tightly restricted refugee programs?
    "Free movement", as in unrestricted travel/immigration to and from any and all nations is an realistic ideal in this age.
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    Originally posted by twhitehead
    And that too raises an ethical question. Why do we only attribute 'innocence' to young girls and toddlers?
    I guess because they're seen as more pure or less evil than men.
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    30 Mar '17 21:10
    Originally posted by vivify
    "Free movement", as in unrestricted travel/immigration to and from any and all nations is an realistic ideal in this age.
    So you do support discrimination by nationality? On what basis is it an 'unrealistic ideal'? The same sort of 'unrealistic ideal' as expecting China to treat North Korean refugees humanely? Or different in some way? Why are we discussing anything given that almost anything other than the status quo is an 'unrealistic ideal'?
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    Originally posted by vivify
    I guess because they're seen as more pure or less evil than men.
    I understand why. But that doesn't mean we should encourage such blatant sex discrimination and ageism.
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