Jesus was an Angel?

Hebrews 1

In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.

The Son Superior to Angels

5 For to which of the angels did God ever say,


“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father”[a]?

Or again,


“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son”[b]?

6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,


“Let all God’s angels worship him.”[c]

7 In speaking of the angels he says,


“He makes his angels spirits,
and his servants flames of fire.”[d]

8 But about the Son he says,


“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

9
You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[e]

10 He also says,


“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.

11
They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.

12
You will roll them up like a robe;
like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
and your years will never end.”[f]

13 To which of the angels did God ever say,


“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”[g]?

14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?


After reading this can anyone actually say that Jesus was an angel. In multiple places in this text Jesus is described to be inherently different from the angels.

Hebrews 2

We must pay the most careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away. 2 For since the message spoken through angels was binding, and every violation and disobedience received its just punishment, 3 how shall we escape if we ignore so great a salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him. 4 God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.

Jesus Made Fully Human

5 It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking. 6 But there is a place where someone has testified:


“What is mankind that you are mindful of them,
a son of man that you care for him?

7
You made them a little[a] lower than the angels;
you crowned them with glory and honor

8
and put everything under their feet.”[b][c]

In putting everything under them,[d] God left nothing that is not subject to them.[e] Yet at present we do not see everything subject to them.[f] 9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

10 In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered. 11 Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters.[g] 12 He says,


“I will declare your name to my brothers and sisters;
in the assembly I will sing your praises.”[h]

13 And again,


“I will put my trust in him.”[i]

And again he says,


“Here am I, and the children God has given me.”[j]

14 Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— 15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. 16 For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham’s descendants. 17 For this reason he had to be made like them,[k] fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. 18 Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.


Once again Jesus is a man, not an angel.

Jesus was and is a mighty spiritual being before and after he was a human, nothing you have said negates this reality. How are you going to explain this verse?

For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel. 1 Thess 4:16

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Jesus was and is a mighty spiritual being before and after he was a human, nothing you have said negates this reality. How are you going to explain this verse?

For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, [b]with the voice of the archangel. 1 Thess 4:16[/b]

With the voice of an archangel means is an archangel?

Originally posted by Eladar
With the voice of an archangel means is an archangel?

you were explaining it to us, were you not?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you were explaining it to us, were you not?

You mean because his voice was like an archangel, he had to be an angel? Is that your position?

13 To which of the angels did God ever say,


“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”[g]?

14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?


So this is saying Jesus is an angel or is Jesus different from angels?

Originally posted by Eladar
You mean because his voice was like an archangel, he had to be an angel? Is that your position?

you were explaining to us why Christ comes with an archangels voice. Is there a ventriloquist? Is he doing an impressions of an archangel. Tell us how its possible?

Originally posted by Eladar
[b]13 To which of the angels did God ever say,


“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”[g]?

14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?


So this is saying Jesus is an angel or is Jesus different from angels?[/b]

There are different types of angels are there not?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you were explaining to us why Christ comes with an archangels voice. Is there a ventriloquist? Is he doing an impressions of an archangel. Tell us how its possible?

Two different people who have different positions can't have similar sounding voices?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
There are different types of angels are there not?

Sure there are, but the question is asked, what angel has received what Jesus received.

Notice the text does not say what other angel.

Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

Was Jesus sent as a ministering spirit?

Originally posted by Eladar
[b]Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

Was Jesus sent as a ministering spirit?[/b]

Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. Matt 20:28 KJV

Originally posted by Eladar
Two different people who have different positions can't have similar sounding voices?

yes but the scripture does not say that does it, it says that Jesus comes with an archangels voice and you ave still failed to explain why it should be the case.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes but the scripture does not say that does it, it says that Jesus comes with an archangels voice and you ave still failed to explain why it should be the case.

With the voice of an archangel does not mean archangel.

If someone says that a singer has the voice of an angel, does that mean the person is an angel?