Originally posted by apathist Our society here in the west suffers from some deep unjustified indoctrination. Old school instruction from old white men who did not know what stars or atoms are. How do we rise above it?
Anyway we can without violence. Perhaps some splashes of genuine creativity
Originally posted by josephw Jesus said, " I am the way". Quote from the opposing sources that you say guarantee eternal life.
I didn't claim that other religions had the same details or words in their texts. I simply pointed out that the "paths' that other religions envisage supposedly lead to eternal life too.
Originally posted by apathist Native american, before influence. I think this as an old story. Kinda deist.
Not just native American, though the word "Spirit" may not be the same in say ... Australian indigenous culture, I'm pretty sure they have concept of it.
In Hinduism it is Vishnu - the creator of all things
Originally posted by FMF I didn't claim that other religions had the same details or words in their texts. I simply pointed out that the "paths' that other religions envisage supposedly lead to eternal life too.
Originally posted by FMF
"Proponents of all major religions claim their paths guarantee eternal life."
Originally posted by josephw Originally posted by FMF
[b]"Proponents of all major religions claim their paths guarantee eternal life."
Quote them.[/b]
As I said, I didn't claim that the other religions have the same details or words in their texts as you have in your religion. Muslims believe they are on the path to eternal life. Hindus believe they are on the path to eternal life. Jews believe they are on the path to eternal life. etc. etc.
Originally posted by FMF Proponents of all major religions claim their paths guarantee eternal life.
As I understand Buddhism, which isn't much I admit, the entire point is to get off the wheel of life and enter a state of nonbeing. So rather than promise eternal life they promise oblivion.
Edit: I wrote that in the expectation of being corrected if I had it wrong?
Originally posted by DeepThought As I understand Buddhism, which isn't much I admit, the entire point is to get off the wheel of life and enter a state of nonbeing. So rather than promise eternal life they promise oblivion.
Edit: I wrote that in the expectation of being corrected if I had it wrong?
I don't really think of Buddhism as a religion, as such. But it was sloppy of me, perhaps, not to add that footnote when I referred to "all" religions, as my take on Buddhism is not shared by everyone.
Originally posted by DeepThought As I understand Buddhism, which isn't much I admit, the entire point is to get off the wheel of life and enter a state of nonbeing. So rather than promise eternal life they promise oblivion.
Edit: I wrote that in the expectation of being corrected if I had it wrong?
Then allow me to correct. 🙂
Think of the Buddhist monk as a grain of salt. His goal is to dissolve into the great ocean, to become part of the eternal oneness of existence. I don't think that can fairly be compared with oblivion.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke Then allow me to correct. 🙂
Think of the Buddhist monk as a grain of salt. His goal is to dissolve into the great ocean, to become part of the eternal oneness of existence. I don't think that can fairly be compared with oblivion.
Yes it can, you are just window dressing it. How can there be existence without consciousness?
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke 'One' consciousness. Think of it as complete union with God.
What else can I teach you?
one consciousness? what pretentiousness is this? My dear fellow what consciousness does granite rock have? Complete union without consciousness is not possible.
What else can you teach me? something, anything would be fine.
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29 Apr '17 01:07
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