When you say Kasparov's immortal, i presume you mean his game with Topalov? Personally, i think Kasparov has a better game. This win against Kramnik, imho, is the best game of chess i have ever seen!
Edit: I don't know why i get this tune in my head when ever i see this game.. YouTube[/youtube]
It's not a fair comparison. Fischer's got its label from some IM that was overly excited to see a 13 year old upset a GM. Kaspy's was chosen when he was at his full strength, and playing against one of the (other) strongest players in the world.
Fischer played several games that were better than the "Game of the Century" in the 1971 candidates matches and 1972 world championship.
Here is the game commonly known as Fischer's Game of the Century, played in 1956 when Fischer was 13. His opponent, Donald Byrne, had placed 3d in the US Open the year before, half a point behind Reshevsky and Rossolimo (tied 1 -2) and would place 2d the year after (half a point behind Bisguier).
[Event "Third Rosenwald Trophy"] [Site "New York, NY USA"] [Date "1956.10.17"] [EventDate "1956.10.07"] [Round "8"] [Result "0-1"] [White "Donald Byrne"] [Black "Robert James Fischer"] [ECO "D92"] [WhiteElo "?"] [BlackElo "?"] [PlyCount "82"]
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. d4 O-O 5. Bf4 d5 6. Qb3 dxc4 7. Qxc4 c6 8. e4 Nbd7 9. Rd1 Nb6 10. Qc5 Bg4 11. Bg5 {11. Be2 followed by 12 O-O would have been more prudent. The bishop move played allows a sudden crescendo of tactical points to be uncovered by Fischer. -- Wade} Na4 {!} 12. Qa3 {On 12. Nxa4 Nxe4 and White faces considerable difficulties.} Nxc3 {At first glance, one might think that this move only helps White create a stronger pawn center; however, Fischer's plan is quite the opposite. By eliminating the Knight on c3, it becomes possible to sacrifice the exchange via Nxe4 and smash White's center, while the King remains trapped in the center.} 13. bxc3 Nxe4 {The natural continuation of Black's plan.} 14. Bxe7 Qb6 15. Bc4 Nxc3 16. Bc5 Rfe8+ 17. Kf1 Be6 {!! If this is the game of the century, then 17...Be6!! must be the counter of the century. Fischer offers his queen in exchange for a fierce attack with his minor pieces. Declining this offer is not so easy: 18. Bxe6 leads to a 'Philidor Mate' (smothered mate) with ...Qb5+ 19. Kg1 Ne2+ 20. Kf1 Ng3+ 21. Kg1 Qf1+ 22. Rxf1 Ne2#. Other ways to decline the queen also run into trouble: e.g., 18. Qxc3 Qxc5} 18. Bxb6 Bxc4+ 19. Kg1 Ne2+ 20. Kf1 Nxd4+ {This tactical scenario, where a king is repeatedly revealed to checks, is sometimes called a "windmill."} 21. Kg1 Ne2+ 22. Kf1 Nc3+ 23. Kg1 axb6 24. Qb4 Ra4 25. Qxb6 Nxd1 26. h3 Rxa2 27. Kh2 Nxf2 28. Re1 Rxe1 29. Qd8+ Bf8 30. Nxe1 Bd5 31. Nf3 Ne4 32. Qb8 b5 {Every piece and pawn of the black camp is defended. The white queen has nothing to do.} 33. h4 h5 34. Ne5 Kg7 35. Kg1 Bc5+ 36. Kf1 Ng3+ {Now Byrne is hopelessly entangled in Fischer's mating net.} 37. Ke1 Bb4+ 38. Kd1 Bb3+ 39. Kc1 Ne2+ 40. Kb1 Nc3+ 41. Kc1 Rc2# 0-1
Originally posted by Marinkatomb When you say Kasparov's immortal, i presume you mean his game with Topalov? Personally, i think Kasparov has a better game. This win against Kramnik, imho, is the best game of chess i have ever seen!
Edit: I don't know why i get this tune in my head when ever i see this game.. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JgEptmz_eE[/youtube]
Originally posted by Marinkatomb When you say Kasparov's immortal, i presume you mean his game with Topalov? Personally, i think Kasparov has a better game. This win against Kramnik, imho, is the best game of chess i have ever seen!
Edit: I don't know why i get this tune in my head when ever i see this game.. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JgEptmz_eE[/youtube]
Originally posted by mghrn55 Just tossing it out there !!
That's a tough call. I suppose it's a matter of taste. I'd give a slight edge to Kasparov's game simply because he was playing against an opponent that was a little stronger (in my opinion) than Fischers. Seeing these two in a world championship match in their prime would definitely be the greatest match ever.
Originally posted by Marinkatomb When you say Kasparov's immortal, i presume you mean his game with Topalov? Personally, i think Kasparov has a better game. This win against Kramnik, imho, is the best game of chess i have ever seen!
Edit: I don't know why i get this tune in my head when ever i see this game.. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JgEptmz_eE[/youtube]
For your youtube videos to work you need to erase everthing in the address on the left side of (and including) the equal sign. It should look like this...
Originally posted by lemon lime For your youtube videos to work you need to erase everthing in the address on the left side of (and including) the equal sign. It should look like this...
(youtube)8JgEptmz_eE(/youtube)
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Thank you, i was wondering if it was just broken on my machine actually, have been having flash issues. Cheers for that 🙂
Fischer's game acquired the title because he was so young, and at the time it was considered a miracle to see an American boy play like this. If it was done by some Russian in Pioneer's Home in Moscow, it would be considered a normal result of Soviet Chess Drill...
Nevertheless, Fischer is symbol of chess for me, and I never understood Kasparov - he is untouchable. Those names are always arbitrary, and comparisons are impossible. Matter of taste.