I for one do believe in Karma! I have seen it happen to many people.
-VR
You can be a Roman Catholic and believe in karma as well? That's interesting.
Note: had I put this thread in the spirituality forum, I would not have known your views, or that of others from the general forum, who do not visit that forum.
The rule of karma is that you reap what you sow, not necessarily all in one lifetime. And yes, it is possible to be born with bad karma accumulated from previous incarnations. This is not harsh, it is simply cause and effect. The rule of karma is, in contrast to the judeo christian tradition, completely without intentionality --in other words, there is no punishment. There are only the delayed effects of your own previous actions.
Bad karma is not necessarily unpleasant. Good karma is not necessarily pleasant. Bad karma is whatever leads one away from enlightenment. Good karma is whatever leads one towards it.
Originally posted by moonbus The rule of karma is that you reap what you sow, not necessarily all in one lifetime. And yes, it is possible to be born with bad karma accumulated from previous incarnations. This is not harsh, it is simply cause and effect. The rule of karma is, in contrast to the judeo christian tradition, completely without intentionality --in other words, there is no pu ...[text shortened]... arma is whatever leads one away from enlightenment. Good karma is whatever leads one towards it.
Nicely put.
I also like the idea that a 'bad life' (for want of a better phrase) doesn't necessarily mean one is suffering the effects of bad karma from a previous incarnation. For example, perhaps it is necessary for a soul to experience poverty or disease first hand in order for it to grow in the direction of enlightenment.
Originally posted by chaney3 I was simply curious about those who believe in karma, and the rules.
The rules are made up. There are different schools. I think the whole concept is based on two conflicting ideas: what goes around comes around; and life can be so unfair.
Originally posted by chaney3 Not at all.
I was have a lighthearted, not so serious discussion with someone about karma. We all know the 'good and bad' aspect of karma, but time frame is questionable.
By the way, you continue to prove your fake Christianity with every post you make.
You're getting unnecessarily upset about me asking you questions Chaney3.
I also like the idea that a 'bad life' (for want of a better phrase) doesn't necessarily mean one is suffering the effects of bad karma from a previous incarnation. For example, perhaps it is necessary for a soul to experience poverty or disease first hand in order for it to grow in the direction of enlightenment.
Marco Pallis, a Western scholar who writes about Buddhism with uncommon insight, expressed this very idea thusly: a poor, rustic farmer, with, objectively speaking, a very hard life, might actually have good karma in the sense that he is already very close to nirvana and has only to accept occasional kindness from his neighbors, whereas a university professor with a comfortable life and guaranteed pension may be very far from nirvana, blinded by his own arrogance and erudition.
Originally posted by chaney3 Okay, so how is it fixed and reversed? With good living and deeds? And how long does it take?
The play/book ' A Christmas Carol ' by Charles Dickens (im pretty sure its charles dickens) is based on karma. Watch the movie, its only like 30-60 minutes long.