01 Nov '16 14:20>
manipulation, collusion, and counter collusion are a matter of fact
clan play has become more difficult and less fun
there's a need for this forum
i cannot moderate, but i will try to keep things moving in a positive direction
two bits of light humor to begin
'a camel is a horse designed by a committee'
...and trying to get the clan leaders on this site to agree is 'like herding cats'
please don't criticize each other
the system needs help
ideas have been put forward
we're here to test their merit, to refine and maybe adopt what is most useful
if we ask for reform, we'll most likely to get results if...
the change is simple, feasible, and does not require a large effort on the part of the site
once implemented, it does not require excessive maintenance on the part of the administrators
the sense of the change is self evident, and all or most of us agree on it
what follows is a list of suggestions from the previous thread
the most common have been floated to the top
i tried to combine and condense, without changing intent or meaning
the '(or,' device has been used when clan leaders had different views on the same issue
if i missed the gist, please correct me, and know that it was not done out of personal bias
that being said ...here they are
clan individual ratings should be uncoupled from RHP non-clan individual ratings, ELO is proposed as a respected and useful rating system
X number of clan games should be played with a provisional rating to ascertain a clan player's true strength, these initial matches do not count
no draws or resignations will be permitted until 30 moves have been made (or, permit no clan games to be resigned)
clan players that have not moved for 30 days will become unavailable for challenges
set a maximum rating differential of X between clan challenge opponents (currently 200 points, 100 points also proposed) (or, let this be at the clan leader's discretion)
each player should only be allowed to play for one clan (or, do not permit challenge against a clan where the other leader is also a member of their clan)
hide the results of a clan challenges until the match is complete
points for winning a challenge are allocated as is currently done (or, winner takes it all, for any drawn challenge each team gets 0 points)
clans should have a minimum requirement of X players, and are not permitted to issue challenge unless the requirement is met
a site referee, or a committee of proven clan leaders, should be set up to review clan play and place appropriate bans and cautions
set a point limit, so no clan can run away with the totals
prevent clans from starting challenges if they are rated X over the challenged clan
set a maximum number of challenges between clans involving the same players (currently this is 3)
score clan performance on net average rating change, this will give smaller clans, or slower clans, a measure of equality
members of the winning clan at the end of the year receive a free subscription when their next renewal is due
15 talking points
discussion on these and more are welcome
start where you like
it might be most productive to deliberate on one point per post
peace
~leo
clan play has become more difficult and less fun
there's a need for this forum
i cannot moderate, but i will try to keep things moving in a positive direction
two bits of light humor to begin
'a camel is a horse designed by a committee'
...and trying to get the clan leaders on this site to agree is 'like herding cats'
please don't criticize each other
the system needs help
ideas have been put forward
we're here to test their merit, to refine and maybe adopt what is most useful
if we ask for reform, we'll most likely to get results if...
the change is simple, feasible, and does not require a large effort on the part of the site
once implemented, it does not require excessive maintenance on the part of the administrators
the sense of the change is self evident, and all or most of us agree on it
what follows is a list of suggestions from the previous thread
the most common have been floated to the top
i tried to combine and condense, without changing intent or meaning
the '(or,' device has been used when clan leaders had different views on the same issue
if i missed the gist, please correct me, and know that it was not done out of personal bias
that being said ...here they are
clan individual ratings should be uncoupled from RHP non-clan individual ratings, ELO is proposed as a respected and useful rating system
X number of clan games should be played with a provisional rating to ascertain a clan player's true strength, these initial matches do not count
no draws or resignations will be permitted until 30 moves have been made (or, permit no clan games to be resigned)
clan players that have not moved for 30 days will become unavailable for challenges
set a maximum rating differential of X between clan challenge opponents (currently 200 points, 100 points also proposed) (or, let this be at the clan leader's discretion)
each player should only be allowed to play for one clan (or, do not permit challenge against a clan where the other leader is also a member of their clan)
hide the results of a clan challenges until the match is complete
points for winning a challenge are allocated as is currently done (or, winner takes it all, for any drawn challenge each team gets 0 points)
clans should have a minimum requirement of X players, and are not permitted to issue challenge unless the requirement is met
a site referee, or a committee of proven clan leaders, should be set up to review clan play and place appropriate bans and cautions
set a point limit, so no clan can run away with the totals
prevent clans from starting challenges if they are rated X over the challenged clan
set a maximum number of challenges between clans involving the same players (currently this is 3)
score clan performance on net average rating change, this will give smaller clans, or slower clans, a measure of equality
members of the winning clan at the end of the year receive a free subscription when their next renewal is due
15 talking points
discussion on these and more are welcome
start where you like
it might be most productive to deliberate on one point per post
peace
~leo