1. Joined
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    24 Jun '14 17:28
    Is Anyone keeping up with the World vs. Arkadij Naiditsch? Is anyone playing in it? The link for it is below:

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/challenge?gid=1756777
  2. e4
    Joined
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    24 Jun '14 20:59
    it is not The World vs Arkadij Naiditsch

    It is The World's Computers v whatever computer Arkadij Naiditsch
    can lay his hands on.

    I was in and looking forward to it claiming that I refuse to get
    beaten by anyone whose name I cannot pronounce.

    (This was followed by a post telling me how to pronounce it.....another joke falls flat.)

    Then found out some of The World were going to use computers - I stated
    the we (the World) will NOT be using computers adding what is the point and it's cheating.


    It was then explained to me thus:

    <Sally Simpson...that is me.>

    Sigh. We go through this discussion at the beginning (and sometimes in the
    middle) of each one of these games. So let me try to summarize the argument once again:

    1. As I said in an earlier post, cheating is only cheating if you are doing
    something that is not allowed and therefore gain an unfair advantage by
    doing so.

    In this game the rules allow computer assistance, so using computers in
    this game is not cheating.

    2. Computer assisted chess is different than other kinds of chess; blitz,
    rapid, OTB at classical time controls, and correspondence. It may not be of
    interest to you or others just like correspondence chess may not be of
    interest to some that like blitz. De gustibus non disputandum est.

    (De gustibus non disputandum est. - I think that may be latin for live and let live.)

    3. Computer assisted chess requires skills beyond reading the computer
    screen. For one thing, you need to learn how to turn the computer on.

    (there is where I've been going wrong..I'm not switching on a computer)

    You also need to validate the computer moves, reconcile the suggestions
    from multiple engines, do forward and backward sliding, and (probably most
    important) know <when> to deviate from the computer(s) suggested
    moves.

    It looks like you have not been involved in one of these games before so,
    take my word for it, it does take a lot of effort.

    (cutting and pasting....a lot of effort.)

    Whether it's worth it or not, enjoyable or not, depends on your personal viewpoint.
    etc...etc...I'd give a link but you have to be a paid up member to see it.

    I bade them farewell, wished them good luck and pulled out.
  3. Joined
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    24 Jun '14 21:501 edit
    GreenPawn and All More,

    Unless I am wrong, you don't have to be a Paying Member to play in the World vs. Naiditsch game. You will be part of a voting group. It may have clearly said that you can play while not Paying for a membership.

    You may have to sign up for a free membership though. After that the web site is:
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    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/challenge?gid=1756777

    It looks like a Ruy Lopez game so far. . .
  4. e4
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    25 Jun '14 00:25
    Hi,

    I thougt t was for paid up members. Just had a look at a recent post.
    It is a Lopez (3.Bb5 has just been played) and already one lad has posted:

    <Analysis by Houdini 3 Pro w32:

    <1. (0.58): <4.0-0> Bd6 5.Re1

    <2. (0.40): <4.d3> d6 5.d4

    <3. (0.37): <4.Ba4> Nf6 5.0-0

    <4. (0.36): <4.c3> Nf6 5.d4

    <5. (0.35): <4.Nc3> a6 5.Ba4

    They seem to be enjoying themselves. Not for me though,
  5. Joined
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    27 Jun '14 03:536 edits
    Well, it looks like "The World vs Arkadij Naiditschgame" game play for the 1st 3 moves for white and black are:

    1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6

    So far, this could be the C65 Defence. If 4. O-O Bc5, the C65 will continue. If 4. O-O Nxe4, then I guess, C67 is the game.

    If 4. d3 Bc5 5. c3 O-O, this will be Central Pressure Vs. Development as in an Ivanchuck/Kramnik game. Interestingly perhaps, after 6. Bxc6, Black should play 6... bxc6, not 6... dxc6. That progression is the C65 Defence too.

    Is that correct GreenPawn?

    Check the latest move at:
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    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/challenge?gid=1756777
  6. Joined
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    14 Jul '14 23:03
    Well the game is going quite slow. However, if you wish to see some progress check it out at:

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/challenge?gid=1756777
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