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    Swearing oaths that are not taken seriously is all too common.
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    Why was this not a problem the first time he enlisted?
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    I lost a job 20 years ago because the general manager's son wanted it. What's your point??
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    Right you are! If we don't change our system to suit one guy, we're villians. Boo Hoo Hoo!
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  9. Standard memberDeepThought
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    I've skim read the article. They've made a change to their rules, or more precisely the way they implement them, and in any case their rules are clearly unconstitutional so I think he'd win if he sued for unfair dismissal.

    It is a strange thing to attempt to ensure people's word is good using magic in an age of science.
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    Originally posted by bill718
    I lost a job 20 years ago because the general manager's son wanted it. ?
    What's your point??
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    It's a pretty moronic rule, but I don't get why this air force seargeant makes such a big deal out of it. Swearing to God is meaningless to him anyway.
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    I see no problem here to debate.
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    he is trying to say that maybe this isn't such a big deal. yes it is wrong, but all that guy had to do is say the damn words. he is entering the military and is supposed to be following orders. if you want to military, your personal convictions are irrelevant and especially in matters so trivial.

    this is also different than the situation of gays. he wasn't forbidden to join because he was an atheist, he was just presented with the first order to follow and he chose to disregard it.

    i am all for removing school prayer, mandatory religious classes, intelligent design, interference of religious in science and so on. i would also be for the removal of god from oaths like in this instance. until then however, if you want to military, just follow the rules.


    this guy simply didn't want it enough and wanted the attention more. booohooo, it goes against my convictions to say "so help me god" but i am quite ok to blow up people otherwise and scrub toilets if the drill sergeant asks me to.
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    11 Sep '14 08:39
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    I've skim read the article. They've made a change to their rules, or more precisely the way they implement them, and in any case their rules are clearly unconstitutional so I think he'd win if he sued for unfair dismissal.

    It is a strange thing to attempt to ensure people's word is good using magic in an age of science.
    the military is and should be beyond constitution. it is a requirement to function.
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I see no problem here to debate.
    That's irrelevant to everyone.
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