Originally posted by sundown316 I've been seeing this move a lot vs. my Sicilian. Anybody know if it has a name? Can't find one in any of the sources I've checked.
Originally posted by sundown316 I've been seeing this move a lot vs. my Sicilian. Anybody know if it has a name? Can't find one in any of the sources I've checked.
Originally posted by sundown316 I've been seeing this move a lot vs. my Sicilian. Anybody know if it has a name? Can't find one in any of the sources I've checked.
His name is Jaime, we've been hanging out with Najdorf over at the Schwenningen Inn.
2.Bc4 is questionable. I believe it's popularity at the lower levels is due to players following an opening system that they use against anything. White is probably trying to achieve this set up:
Originally posted by KnightStalker47 2.Bc4 is questionable. I believe it's popularity at the lower levels is due to players following an opening system that they use against anything. White is probably trying to achieve this set up:
[fen]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/2B1P3/2NP1N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQ1RK1 w - - 0 1[/fen]
2. Bc4 is transitional. If white follows (after 2...e6) then 3.Nf3 and black replies Nc6, d6, or a6 then white plays d4 and we arrive at the line played by Robert Fischer. For many years Bc4 was considered an ineffectual move until that crazy American started beat grandmasters with it.
Originally posted by caissad4 2. Bc4 is transitional. If white follows (after 2...e6) then 3.Nf3 and black replies Nc6, d6, or a6 then white plays d4 and we arrive at the line played by Robert Fischer. For many years Bc4 was considered an ineffectual move until that crazy American started beat grandmasters with it.
Bc4 is only good vs. Sicilians if black has played d6, because then Bxe6 sacrifices come into play. Without d6 white will never transpose into any mainlines. It's playable I guess, it's just ugly.
Originally posted by caissad4 2. Bc4 is transitional. If white follows (after 2...e6) then 3.Nf3 and black replies Nc6, d6, or a6 then white plays d4 and we arrive at the line played by Robert Fischer. For many years Bc4 was considered an ineffectual move until that crazy American started beat grandmasters with it.
I'm skeptical about your line of play, at least after 3. ... a6:
Very popular at the lower levels where White is going for Scholars Mate.
Over 200 examples of White mating on f7 with a Queen aided by the Bishop.
This one is where Black plays 2...e6 blunting the Bishop's sword. (very painful!)
However such moves do not put off a determined a RHP player from hitting f7.
1. e4 c5 2. Bc4 e6 3. Qf3 {White played this Anyway.} 3... Nc6 4. a3 {Stopping Nb4 but not....} 4... Nd4 5. Qd1 d5 {The main drawback of the Bc4 v e6 line. d5 usually comes with a big tempo.} 6. exd5 exd5 7. Ba2 Qe7+ 8. Ne2 Qe4 {Threatening Nxc2+ and Qxg2. Some fun lines here with 9.0-0 Nxe2+ 10.Kh1 Bd6 and if White is thinking he can win back the piece with Re1 then 11.Re1 Bg5 and if 21.f3 Black can sac the Queen. } 9. d3 Qxg2 10. Rf1 Nf3
It would be better known as the Silly Billy Attack v. the CK
I've been 1 e4 c5; 2 Bc4 used by strong club-level amateurs. It's usually a move-order finesse with 3 f4 and GPA-style set-ups to follow. But poor against well-prepared opponents when 2...e6 and 3...a6 give Black an easy life
Originally posted by DeepThought I'm skeptical about your line of play, at least after 3. ... a6:[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Bc4 e6 3. Nf3 a6 4. d4 b5 5. Be2 {and definitely not 5. Bb3} Bb7 [/pgn]looks nice for black.
I played this line yesterday against one of my students after reading this thread.